Everyone Happy at New Rinks?

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There would be no point to leave the NJYHL to go to the THF if we are being honest.

[Guest]

There would be no point to leave the NJYHL to go to the THF if we are being honest.

NJYHL 2012 AA (which is what FY 2013 team plays) has an average MHR rating of 82.69 with top team at 85.51. THF 2012 has an average rating of 87.87 with top team at 97.32. THF 2011 has average rating of 84.58 with top team at 90.14. While THF is low AAA/high AA, it is just better. Don't delude yourself into thinking THF sucks just because FE is not good at PW levels and FY split with a below average Mercer 11U AAA team.

[Guest]

Stop it. My kid plays for PHC and I can tell you from experience nobody at the rink operates the way you described. We get a ton of ice and the coaches are good. The teams win because the rink has a great offering at mite, player development does matter. The program has existed for only 7 seasons btw.

[Guest]

Who from PHC are they talking about leaving? i am not sure who is being referenced, JD?

[Guest]

Who from PHC are they talking about leaving? i am not sure who is being referenced, JD?

No one is talking about anyone leaving PHC. Someone is leaving current rink for PHC.

[Guest]

Stop it. My kid plays for PHC and I can tell you from experience nobody at the rink operates the way you described. We get a ton of ice and the coaches are good. The teams win because the rink has a great offering at mite, player development does matter. The program has existed for only 7 seasons btw.

Here is what was said about PHC:
"He will not fit in with the cray parents and win at all costs mentality of PHC"
"I think it is sad that I am writing about young kids not living up to expectations, but that is what you get if you go play for PHC. Development and loyalty are not concepts PHC embrace. Results are what matters. PHC will not hesitate to cut a player who has been loyal to the program. It is all about wining and that is not what youth hockey should be about, even at AAA"

Where in the above does it say PHC does not get ice time or the coaches are bad? Development does matter, but PHC rarely promotes players from Hurricanes that are good enough to make PHC. Every year PHC recruits players from other rinks, rather than promote from Hurricanes. Let's talk about your mite program. You are really talking about Venom which is not the program it used to be when team was at Pennsauken. Before they left Pennsauken they had a monopoly on full ice mite kids from the area. That is not the case now and they are just an ok program. Look at the team turnover:

2015: 5 players gone from last year (Venom), 5 new players
2014- 2 players gone from last year, 3 new players
2013- 3 players gone from last year, 4 new players
2012- 7 players gone from last year, 6 new players
2011- 10 players gone from last year, 10 new players

As the kids get older the turnover picks up. Not because people don't want to stay, but because PHC/TB wants higher rankings. How is that working out for them this year?

14U 41st nationally
13U 93rd
12U 38th
11U 10th
10U 26th
9U   15th

11U is the only team living up to the standards of PHC. 9U team thought they would be top 5 nationally with one assistant coach saying they have the "best 2015 player in the country". Way to put pressure on a 9 year old! The culture at PHC is terrible and once parents are in it for a few years, a lot of them realize it is toxic and leave. Some will just keep drinking the kool-aid of PHC, but to their own detriment.

Full disclosure: I am a parent of a former PHC player. My kid is playing for another AAA team and has improved way more this year that he did over his time at Hollydell!

This guy who is supposedly leaving for PHC next year will not be happy!

[Guest]

Rankings actually look good to me other than 2011.

Your experience is much different than mine. I have 3 kids in the sport. 1 at PHC. Winning is a bi product of development.

Did you leave or your own or were you cut?

[Guest]

Rankings actually look good to me other than 2011.

Your experience is much different than mine. I have 3 kids in the sport. 1 at PHC. Winning is a bi product of development.

Did you leave or your own or were you cut?

Left on my own. Culture was bad. Rankings are bad for TB. He wants top 10. How long have you been there?

[Guest]

Yes but the 2011's "promoted" 7 kids from Hurricane's so they kept it in house which is great. They struggle with wins, but they have been in almost every game this season.  They have a some players that are decent and developing with 2 really good coaches that is all that matters at 13. Wins mean nothing.

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Since 2010.

Coaches are good. A lot of ice time. That’s all I care about. Wanting to win isn’t something that bothers me. 2 of my kids advanced to junior and college hockey, other is still at PHC.