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AAA announcements
Topic: April 04, 2025, 11:00:10 AM
I follow multiple clubs and I'm starting to see their AAA rosters being announced. Congrats to those that have a sucker as a parent that are fooled into thinking AAA before bantam is worth it. I was one of those parents with my 1st kid in hockey but wised up for the youngest. I learned my money was better used at tier2 with added lessons with coaches that work with specific skills, for example for skating we used a figure skating coach that was great for edge work. My oldest son at bantam got bumped down to AA after not making AAA again he spent his final yrs there. My other kid who played A & AA up to Bantam tried out for a team that advertised, they had 2 openings. He was 1 of like 7 that tried out and was picked for a spot. After 3 yrs with the team, he was 1 of 5 invited to their junior's team camp, invites didn't pay for the camp. My oldest played 2 yrs of club hockey in college before putting down his stick and picking up the whistle.

How many posts were made this year with someone complaining about a AAA/AA/A team being blown out. That happens when your "AAA/AA/A" team went up against a real AAA/AA/A team. Why? because we have too many AAA teams in the area, not creating competition to be a true AAA player and parents' ego by having their kid play AAA that shouldn't be causing the water downed effect on all levels. This is not just in hockey but all youth sports, I have 4 kids, the other son playing travel ball while my daughter plays soccer. Until parents say enough it will only get worse.

Parent's will do what they feel is "best" for their kid, but before you throw money at AAA for a mite-peewee please sit down and see if it is really worth it for your player. It's about their development, not your ego for you can bump your chest and say my kid is AAA
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Reply #1:
 April 04, 2025, 01:22:33 PM
I have my kid on a AAA team for 2 years- 11u & 12U. His game has seen more improvement at less cost than he saw at 9U&10U AA. We did skating & privates at AA, but do not need them at AAA because his coaches work on all that stuff during practice & skills. The AAA teams is really AA and struggles, but the bang for your buck is way better. Also, we negotiate pricing so I never paid full price at AAA, but paid full price at AA. I say to each their own. Stop hating on AAA and let parents decide. If your kid is on "a real AAA teams" then good for you. My kid on a lower level AAA does not affect your kid. Thanks for your advice, but I think if you get in the right program for your kid, then that is all that matters.
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Reply #2:
 April 04, 2025, 01:56:57 PM
You kind of proved part their point with what you said.  "The AAA teams is really AA and struggles" is a major part of the problem. If they really are AA then that is where they should be playing. That is the water downing of youth sports they are talking about. When the area had less teams you had to have legit tryouts and skill to be AAA. I remember when clubs actually were stripped of their AAA status because they didn't belong there and their it showed all the way down the organization ladder.
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Reply #3:
 April 04, 2025, 04:15:26 PM
You are saying that parents should change the system and the organizations...  Parents will pick the best spot for their kid and AAA is the right choice often.  Like OP said, better bang for the buck and better instruction.  Almost all AAA players are really AA players but the AA programs suck compared to the AAA.  There is no choice for the parents.  And, when the kids go to college, AAA is going to help them a lot more than AA - yes, even for club hockey.
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Reply #4:
 April 05, 2025, 09:00:24 AM
Couldn't agree more. This past season my son played scholastic hockey in the CPIHL as well as travel. He was a top player on both teams. He plays AA in travel and we do private/ semi private power skating/ edge skating and stick handling lessons. Between both team fees, tournament fees(4), travel expenses and lessons our total was around $4800. He was on the ice 4-5 days a week for practice/lessons. My nephew who is the same age plays AAA and while his tournament fees, and extra ice is included with travel expenses my brother in law paid just under $9000. Sure we get to hear about traveling and playing in Chicago, Detroit, Maine and other places they go to for weekend games, in return my son gets to tell them about the school football games, dances and other school events they miss out on.

With travel and school games he ends up playing almost the same amount of games as his cousin.

Different coaches have approached us about him moving up to AAA, but he wants to wait. He said he would only play AAA if it didn't interfere with scholastic hockey, he wants to play for the Bears Cup and Flyers Cup on his Varsity team. My nephew and son play on the same spring tournament team were everyone is AA and higher, it's hard to tell the difference between his play and the AAA kids on the team.
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Reply #5:
 April 07, 2025, 07:37:59 AM
You are saying that parents should change the system and the organizations...  Parents will pick the best spot for their kid and AAA is the right choice often.  Like OP said, better bang for the buck and better instruction.  Almost all AAA players are really AA players but the AA programs suck compared to the AAA.  There is no choice for the parents.  And, when the kids go to college, AAA is going to help them a lot more than AA - yes, even for club hockey.

Yes, parents can change the system if they stop spending money where their kid doesn't belong. They suck because of the trickle down of AA kids playing AAA and parents willing to spend for the extra A. Less AAA teams means more ice time for others. Our rink had 3 practices for tier2 until they added "AAA" at the rink. We had 2 1hr15min (45min shared/30min full ice) practices per week and an optional 45min practice (full ice) that cost each player and extra $150 for the year at the start of the season, not all teams opted to do this. Tier2 teams dropped to 2 1hr practices (all shared) a week and no more optional practice.
 My son plays club hockey in college and his team is loaded with kids that never played higher than AA, heck about a quarter never played over A in youth hockey, including my son. They made their playoffs 3yrs straight.
 As for bang for your buck, the OP said that doesn't happen in mite-peewee, they recommended waiting like they did for their 2nd kid.
 My recommendation if you have a daughter playing like us is have her play on the "boys'" team from mite-peewee (she played on B and low A teams) plus she was on a girl's A/AA team 2nd yr squirt through peewee, went girl's AAA at Bantam. Her coach said that the girls that played on "boys" teams when younger have more aggression than the ones that only played on girls' teams.
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Reply #6:
 April 07, 2025, 08:54:58 PM
Unfortunately it’s just not true. The path to juniors /D1 is almost always through AAA. If you don’t experience the competition from an early age the odds are stacked against you. Of course there are exceptions, but if a parent”s goal is D1 the earlier the better to join AAA.
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Reply #7:
 April 08, 2025, 08:19:07 AM
I say let parents do what they want, it's their dime and can't take it with you. I do get what the OP is saying though as far as competition goes. The blame needs to be shared by all: the parents, clubs, leagues, districts and USA Hockey. It's all about the $ money not the competition of play.
 Who said the path to the juniors goes mostly through AAA? I strongly disagree, for ex the LVPY have been putting multiple players in the Juniors every year for years, up and down the East coast and I know of some that went to the Midwest, and as far as Texas. They are 1 of many clubs that do that.
 As for NCAA D1, Hockey: about 3.2% of high school players make it to D1. They are not coming from the AAA programs we have in the area. I have over 40 yrs in the game playing youth through college, coached college club hockey for 5yrs, spent 2yrs as an assistant in the ECHL and refed for over 16yrs. I still keep in contact with pretty many college coaches, even some NCAA D1 coaches and trust me they aren't busting down the doors of local AAA players. At one time AAA in our area was legit. I refed AAA games the past few years that had kids that skated like low A player.
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Reply #8:
 April 08, 2025, 11:03:20 AM
A lot of parents can make a change but no one is organizing them.  It is just not going to happen.  One parent can absolutely not effect change.  Yes, most AAA are AA level, but that makes AA a single A level.  If you have a kid who is a great AA plater, there is really no option other than AAA.  It is not going to change and people will be making comments about "buying an A" forever.  The kid should be dictating what level he/she plays at (if money is not an issue).  It sucks that you have to play AAA to get a real AA feel but that is just the way it is.  This area could have a great AA program that would allow the kids to be more social too.  It sucks, but one parent absolutely cannot do anything about it.
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Reply #9:
 April 08, 2025, 01:54:38 PM
A lot of parents can make a change but no one is organizing them.  It is just not going to happen.  One parent can absolutely not effect change.  Yes, most AAA are AA level, but that makes AA a single A level.  If you have a kid who is a great AA plater, there is really no option other than AAA.  It is not going to change and people will be making comments about "buying an A" forever.  The kid should be dictating what level he/she plays at (if money is not an issue).  It sucks that you have to play AAA to get a real AA feel but that is just the way it is.  This area could have a great AA program that would allow the kids to be more social too.  It sucks, but one parent absolutely cannot do anything about it.
That is why what Justahockeydad makes sense, that the leagues, districts and USA Hockey are also to blame. Parents will never get together and risk losing the extra A, it's too important to them. USA Hockey needs to come out and say that AAA teams in the same league cannot be within 15-20 miles (as the crow flies) of each other. Let the leagues and districts determine which programs stay and which one goes. Hold true tryouts once again and make true AAA teams. It will strengthen teir2 hockey as well, making better all-around competition.
Region would determine the distance but in the Mid Atlantic 15-20 would work. I'm a AAA parent who is tired of driving an hour or more to watch our AAA team whip on a AA team pretending to be AAA, it's not fun for anyone and needs to stop. I know it could cause more travel for true AAA players for practices, I drive a little over an hour for practice for my son to play on a true AAA team. I also know that this idea puts my own kid at risk, a risk we'd take.
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