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Reply #10:
 February 10, 2024, 08:57:06 AM
It did not get approved. If teams get caught they are in serious trouble. Rule is US Hockey, not districts. It is because of checking. AHF is not district sanctioned league, but is USH sanctioned. Report them!
it may not have gotten approved but it is definitely happening I know of at least two in south jersey one on a bantam AA team
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Reply #11:
 February 11, 2024, 09:34:50 AM
It did not get approved. If teams get caught they are in serious trouble. Rule is US Hockey, not districts. It is because of checking. AHF is not district sanctioned league, but is USH sanctioned. Report them!
it may not have gotten approved but it is definitely happening I know of at least two in south jersey one on a bantam AA team

Hope they don't get hurt, that could void their insurance coverage.
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Reply #12:
 February 12, 2024, 09:01:31 PM
What about for "pure" teams? Are there rules governing that/who oversees it? I know I've heard through the rumor mill about 2 players can play down to a minor team, but would love to see the concrete rules this is all based on.
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Reply #13:
 February 13, 2024, 08:45:57 AM
Can girls play down 1 birth year to play on the boys/mixed team? For ex. can a 1st yr 16u girl play down to 14U boys/mixed team. I thought in the past they could.
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Reply #14:
 February 13, 2024, 10:29:55 AM
What about for "pure" teams? Are there rules governing that/who oversees it? I know I've heard through the rumor mill about 2 players can play down to a minor team, but would love to see the concrete rules this is all based on.
In the AHF if you are short players to make a pure 9/11/13/15AA pure team you may put 3 10/12/14/16 yr olds on the team to fill the roster.
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Reply #15:
 February 13, 2024, 11:22:18 AM
What about for "pure" teams? Are there rules governing that/who oversees it? I know I've heard through the rumor mill about 2 players can play down to a minor team, but would love to see the concrete rules this is all based on.
In the AHF if you are short players to make a pure 9/11/13/15AA pure team you may put 3 10/12/14/16 yr olds on the team to fill the roster.

If you are caught by the AAHA or USA Hockey putting a 12 year old on a checking 13U team you risk losing your Tier 1 or Tier 2 sanctioning. No exceptions to this rule. It does not matter what the AHF or THF says. If rule is violated and the team is caught, there are consequences. Remember, THF or AHF are both USA Hockey sanctioned leagues. The AAHA sanctions Tier 1 teams so if you are not on the AAHA Tier 1 list you can't market yourself as a Tier 1 team no matter what THF says. Even though BB hates the AAHA, the AAHA holds all the power. Organizations have to be careful not to violate this rule. They can be banned from nationals!  At the PW & SW levels, they used to allow a minor team to roster 2 major kids. However the new rules do not have this in them, so I believe this is not allowed anymore. Her is the 12U/Banatam rule:

(7) Pursuant to USA Hockey Nationals, Districts and State Championships
requirements, players 12 years-old and younger shall be prohibited
from being rostered on any Youth Classification teams older than 12U
Classification, with the following exceptions;
(a) 12U players playing in a non-check classification
(b) A team operating in a non-check middle school, or a scholastic
program or league, operating under a 14U roster.
(c) A 12-year-old goaltender may be rostered at the 14U level on a
team from the same Association in which the player played in the
previous season, and such team is not eligible to compete in the
USA Hockey National Tournament or games leading the USA
Hockey National Tournament, (e.g. 14A, 14B). The 12U Goaltender
Waiver Form shall be completed and submitted by the Association
Coaching Director (available online) and shall be subject to the
approval of the AAHA Player Development staff.
Page | 8
i. The proposed player must have been rostered and
played on a travel team from the immediate prior season
with the same Association requesting the waiver.
ii. The waiver can only be submitted for an existing member
of your Association. New players are not eligible.
iii. If granted, the waiver is for the player at your Association.
It is not transferable to another Association should the
player choose to contract to play with a different
Association.
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Reply #16:
 February 13, 2024, 02:45:57 PM
Here is the link for the AHF rule book where they bring this up I believe

https://atlantichockeyfederation.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/AHF-Rulebook-23.24-Final-9_6-2.pdf
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Reply #17:
 February 14, 2024, 06:20:54 AM
What about for "pure" teams? Are there rules governing that/who oversees it? I know I've heard through the rumor mill about 2 players can play down to a minor team, but would love to see the concrete rules this is all based on.
In the AHF if you are short players to make a pure 9/11/13/15AA pure team you may put 3 10/12/14/16 yr olds on the team to fill the roster.

If you are caught by the AAHA or USA Hockey putting a 12 year old on a checking 13U team you risk losing your Tier 1 or Tier 2 sanctioning. No exceptions to this rule. It does not matter what the AHF or THF says. If rule is violated and the team is caught, there are consequences. Remember, THF or AHF are both USA Hockey sanctioned leagues. The AAHA sanctions Tier 1 teams so if you are not on the AAHA Tier 1 list you can't market yourself as a Tier 1 team no matter what THF says. Even though BB hates the AAHA, the AAHA holds all the power. Organizations have to be careful not to violate this rule. They can be banned from nationals!  At the PW & SW levels, they used to allow a minor team to roster 2 major kids. However the new rules do not have this in them, so I believe this is not allowed anymore. Her is the 12U/Banatam rule:

(7) Pursuant to USA Hockey Nationals, Districts and State Championships
requirements, players 12 years-old and younger shall be prohibited
from being rostered on any Youth Classification teams older than 12U
Classification, with the following exceptions;
(a) 12U players playing in a non-check classification
(b) A team operating in a non-check middle school, or a scholastic
program or league, operating under a 14U roster.
(c) A 12-year-old goaltender may be rostered at the 14U level on a
team from the same Association in which the player played in the
previous season, and such team is not eligible to compete in the
USA Hockey National Tournament or games leading the USA
Hockey National Tournament, (e.g. 14A, 14B). The 12U Goaltender
Waiver Form shall be completed and submitted by the Association
Coaching Director (available online) and shall be subject to the
approval of the AAHA Player Development staff.
Page | 8
i. The proposed player must have been rostered and
played on a travel team from the immediate prior season
with the same Association requesting the waiver.
ii. The waiver can only be submitted for an existing member
of your Association. New players are not eligible.
iii. If granted, the waiver is for the player at your Association.
It is not transferable to another Association should the
player choose to contract to play with a different
Association.

The 12yr old would be put on the pure 11AA team not the 13AA team. For pure13 you'd use a 14yr old. Same age level 10U/12u/14u/16u needs to used so AAHA and USA Hockey rules don't apply. sorry if you were confused by my other post
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