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Author Topic: COVID19 AAHA - Important hockey family survey  (Read 4074 times)

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Reply #30:
 May 03, 2020, 02:33:05 PM
Here's the list of people who are most likely to suffer extreme illness with lengthy hospital stays, and potential long-term compromised lung, kidney and liver function:

- obesity
- high blood pressure
- diabetes
- old age
- immuno-crompromised
- men have worse outcomes than women

These people should definitely be the ones not breaking isolation, let alone entering ice rinks or having family members participate. Doing so and further taxing medical systems would be immoral and unethical.

There is no way there is going to be a travel hockey season this fall. Get a grip and move on.

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Reply #31:
 May 03, 2020, 02:45:48 PM
"So what  >:(. Its proven this virus has little to no effect on children and healthy adults. Like any virus if the person is immuno compromised or in poor health it can be deadly. This is no longer about a virus its government control."

So what's your plan? Your kid's team is midway through November and the rink you play at tells you a team that was in last week said their entire team tested positive and the government says they need to shut down for 14 days and it's going to take another week to get ice ready again. All games and practices are cancelled for three weeks. And this is the same for that team's rink, and by the way, four other rinks in the region this team played at. Also, five officials who worked the games are under quarantine and all their games will be canceled because there aren't enough officials.

No refunds. No rescheduling games.

You're good with that, yes? Or you think it won't happen that way? If it's the second, you haven't been paying attention.

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Reply #32:
 May 03, 2020, 05:35:39 PM
"So what  >:(. Its proven this virus has little to no effect on children and healthy adults. Like any virus if the person is immuno compromised or in poor health it can be deadly. This is no longer about a virus its government control."

So what's your plan? Your kid's team is midway through November and the rink you play at tells you a team that was in last week said their entire team tested positive and the government says they need to shut down for 14 days and it's going to take another week to get ice ready again. All games and practices are cancelled for three weeks. And this is the same for that team's rink, and by the way, four other rinks in the region this team played at. Also, five officials who worked the games are under quarantine and all their games will be canceled because there aren't enough officials.

No refunds. No rescheduling games.

You're good with that, yes? Or you think it won't happen that way? If it's the second, you haven't been paying attention.

Respectfully, I don't see it playing out like this. Every day we are closer to 100% access to testing that takes a day or 2 for results. Rutgers is administering saliva tests now. By September that will be a reality. So if a team you played tests positive then your team gets tested. Anyone testing positive is quarantined. It's the same thing as the flu. Kids get it all the time but only occasionally do you hear about it spreading through an entire team. And by the way, that fly vaccine argument people throw out there when you compare the 2, is bunk. Every year the medical community simply guesses which strain of the flu will be coming for that season. Often times they get it wrong. So the flu vaccine that we all get is pretty much ineffective for that whole season.

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Reply #33:
 May 03, 2020, 05:56:14 PM
Corona is the least of our worries at this point. Murder hornet is here WERE ALLL GONNA DIE!

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Reply #34:
 May 04, 2020, 10:09:59 AM
We would need 100% access to testing and tracking of all players, coaches, rink staff and officials -- every single contact, every time a positive case appeared.

Right now, Pennsylvania Health Secretary Dr. Rachel Levine is saying no team sports in Pennsylvania until in Phase Green. Again, this would mean that as counties move back and forth between Green, Yellow and Red, rinks would most likely need to shutter and reopen throughout the fall and spring.

Several outdoor ice rinks around the country are already canceling opening the rinks. Other rinks are saying possibly opening by August, others by November.

Even if rinks apply for a waiver, they are not going to win that battle if advocating for full-on travel season and teams of people traveling across counties into rinks.

The "One Player, One Rink" is the most likely way to even get kids in hockey skates again and skating and to keep rinks open.

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Reply #35:
 May 04, 2020, 11:22:23 AM
"Respectfully, I don't see it playing out like this. Every day we are closer to 100% access to testing that takes a day or 2 for results. Rutgers is administering saliva tests now. By September that will be a reality. So if a team you played tests positive then your team gets tested. Anyone testing positive is quarantined. It's the same thing as the flu. Kids get it all the time but only occasionally do you hear about it spreading through an entire team. And by the way, that fly vaccine argument people throw out there when you compare the 2, is bunk. Every year the medical community simply guesses which strain of the flu will be coming for that season. Often times they get it wrong. So the flu vaccine that we all get is pretty much ineffective for that whole season."

That's not the way this works. If you come into contact with a positive carrier, you need to self-isolate for 14 days to see if symptoms show up. The current tests will only pick-up positives once a person has enough of the replicated virus to test positive. That may not be until day 8 or 10 -- a week's worth of games and practices.

If you played a team on Saturday, and the following Thursday you get an alert that a few kids and the coach are sick and tested positive (let's say, the time it takes for them to get a test and get results), your team is only five days in to contact with carriers and will need to quarantine at home for at least another nine days, if not the full 14 -- no practices, no games -- to see if symptoms, and if one of your players or coaches develop symptoms, if you've had a practice on Wednesday before you started quaranting and had possible contact with rink staff or a game on Tuesday, now your team, the other team -- and possibly rink staff -- need to quarantine -- or at least, rink needs to close for a deep clean....

This is why contact tracking is so important if we want restrictions lifted: a person tests positive, all their contacts are told and go into 14-day isolation (along with their family, if they can't self-isolate) and see if symptoms develop. Along with social distancing, it's the gold standard for stopping the virus.

And right now, we still don't have tests for everyone with symptoms who need them. With many states backing away from testing all people and a lot of people refusing to even take the pandemic seriously -- not wearing masks, refusing to lockdown even in Red Phase except for essential work -- it's unlikely states are going to be able to do the kind of tracking and testing necessary for youth sports to reopen and stay open.

As for the flu vaccine, experts don't always guess the exact strains, but cutting cases by even 40-60% means fewer days out of school and out of work; it means getting a milder case instead of something that knocks you down for two weeks.

A "moderate" case of Covid-19 still takes about two-weeks to recover, but people with "stay-at-home" cases still report 6-weeks to feel better, and some will still test positive for the virus 40 days after symptoms start, even though symptoms have disappeared.

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Reply #36:
 May 04, 2020, 03:20:43 PM
Thanks Rachel please tell your boss the governor to re-open the state, the sham is over.

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Reply #37:
 May 05, 2020, 06:48:44 PM
Don’t remember the flu having this impact.Laurel Ice Rink Turned Into Temporary Morgue – NBC4 Washington] [url=https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/laurel-ice-rink-turned-into-temporary-morgue/2293111/]Laurel Ice Rink Turned Into Temporary Morgue – NBC4 Washington[/url]

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Reply #38:
 May 05, 2020, 06:51:41 PM
Laurel Ice Rink Turned Into Temporary Morgue – NBC4 Washington

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Reply #39:
 May 05, 2020, 07:10:54 PM
They should still be ready for tryouts.

 

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