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LOYALTY and the double standard
Topic: April 17, 2024, 08:43:45 AM
Clubs want loyalty and commitment from their players but will toss that same player to the trash in a second. The club my son plays for will be having 2 18U teams with the need for 4 goalies. For the 1st eval we had 8 signed up, 7 returning and 1 newish one. The club cut 2 returning goalies after day 1 leaving 6. Our one 18AA spot is a lock so that leaves 5 going for 3 spots. As a skater dad I'd say 4 of the 5 are pretty even, 3 returning and the newish one. Being they are even this is were loyalty from the club should come in. The 3 returning are with the club 4+ years were the newish one was with the club yrs ago and left because he was to good for them. Now that the club he left for is having turmoil we are good enough again. From the look and sound of things one of the clubs top goalies from last yr will be cut. I know my son and other players want him to be on their team, not only is he a very good goalie, he is a locker room leader.
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Reply #1:
 April 17, 2024, 09:07:49 AM
I lost track in the commentary, but were the 2 (returning) that were cut, really good?

It is very important as a goalie parent, if there is any doubt, to talk to your coach/hockey director beforehand. If they can't give pretty much a 100% guarantee or contract early, you need to start looking at other places.

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Reply #2:
 April 17, 2024, 09:11:04 AM
Sounds like pretty stiff competition.  Even if clubs are loyal to kids, it sounds like there aren’t enough goalie spots for even the returning players.  Hopefully some are willing or able to play out.
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Reply #3:
 April 17, 2024, 09:44:31 AM
I lost track in the commentary, but were the 2 (returning) that were cut, really good?

It is very important as a goalie parent, if there is any doubt, to talk to your coach/hockey director beforehand. If they can't give pretty much a 100% guarantee or contract early, you need to start looking at other places.

My kid didn't play with them but from what I saw they weren't that impressive. From what I heard the one was decent when healthy but he missed an extended amount of time every year.
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Reply #4:
 April 17, 2024, 11:33:06 AM
last yrs stats for the top 5
level 16AA GP 23 GS 19 GGA 1.82 SV% .922 W15 L5 T0 PP/SHGA 13
level 16AA GP 27 GS 25 GGA 2.93 SV% .897 W8 L15 T0 PP/SHGA 23
level 18A GP 17 GS 17 GGA 2.18 SV% .9 W12 L3 T2 PP/SHGA 6
level 18AA GP 31 GS 23 GGA 2.4 SV% .892 W8 L14 T1 PP/SHGA 18
level 18AA GP 22 GS 22 GGA 2.43 SV% .903 W17 L5 T0 PP/SHGA 12
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Reply #5:
 April 17, 2024, 12:38:45 PM
I feel your pain.  Been there, done that.

If I have any advice for any hockey parent, it is this:  "DO NOT FEEL LOYALTY TO ANY PROGRAM". 

Do what is best for your player.  Play for summer teams that are different than your home rink to get your name and face out there.  Pay for lessons from other coaches.

This is the time of the year where clubs crush kids for no reason.




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Reply #6:
 April 17, 2024, 01:59:08 PM
The part that sucks for the goalie everyone thinks will be cut is he graduates this year and was accepted to a couple colleges that have club hockey, one even came to one of our games to watch him. I was standing there at the end of the season when 1 of our more respected coaches told him and my son that they have his vote for AA this year. So he declined those colleges and decided to attend community college to play a 2nd yr and help his friends with unfinished business. Add the fact that our hockey director asked multiple times if he was coming back, it is going to be a slap in the face. Hope we are wrong.
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Reply #7:
 April 17, 2024, 03:33:46 PM
From what I've heard 18U is pretty tough because the numbers of teams drop dramatically so many capable, long term players end up being cut. Goalies with only 2 roster spots get hit hard. Hope the goalies find teams to play for next season.
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Reply #8:
 April 18, 2024, 05:56:18 AM
" So he declined those colleges and decided to attend community college to play a 2nd yr and help his friends with unfinished business. "

I assume there is more to this story than deciding not to go to a "real" college, heh, to play a 2nd year of 18U.  probably wants to try juniors perhaps?

All in all, I'd vote for college, casual club hockey, and a successful career in a public company, over the presented path.  Just saying...  Then again, there's always an Academy with online learning for 30k instead of high school! #careerchoice #div1scholarshipftw
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Reply #9:
 April 18, 2024, 06:59:09 AM
So I'm pretty sure the goalie they are talking about the possibly of being cut is my son. He was accepted to Alvernia, Liberty, KU and Penn State Berks. Alvernia, KU, & PS Berks are club hockey that play in the DVCHC, if Berks has enough players. At Liberty he would have been on the D3 team, if enough players.

A couple reasons he decided to go back for a 2nd yr. 1. He loves his teammates and really wanted to finish with them. 2. He felt a yr at 18 would help him get more prepared for college hockey being he is only 17, just turning 18 before the 24/25 season starts. 3. He was going to do the bullsh*t classes at community for a yr at $3,500 instead of $20,000+
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